Overturning Roe v. Wade is Not Our Primary Goal


When it comes to the battle for the right to life, one assumption that we make in the evangelical world is thinking that we must elect one degree of despot over and against another despot in order to get the Supreme Court we need to overturn Roe v. Wade. For those of you who are just waking up to social issues, Roe v. Wade is the Supreme Court ruling that legalized the murder of children in the womb of their mothers.

Overturning this Molech ruling has been the goal of Christians for decades. It is a noble cause, but one that is still off the mark just slightly. And being off the mark, even slightly, is never a good thing.

Now, upfront, let me say that I am opposed to all abortions, in all cases, especially the life-threatening cases (since all abortions in all cases are life-threatening). The taking of innocent life is always murder.

But the point here is that we are misguided if we think that by overturning Roe v. Wade, we will have achieved something. All we will have done is add another law to the Law that has already been given: Thou shall not murder. If another law is all we needed to change things in our country, we could have legislated ourselves into heaven.

But alas, the law, both man-made and God given, does nothing but condemn us. All the law can do is show us our sinfulness. This is one reason why the Ten Commandments have been run out of the common culture: the Ten Commandments show us to be the sinners that we are.

So changing man-made laws will not improve things. Even if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, and I doubt that it will be, it will not end abortions in our country. We are a murderous nation and will continue to be so. If the ruling is overturned, abortion providers will just go underground and will be hailed by those in the Democratic Party, Media, and on the Left as champions of freedom. They will become martyrs for Molech.

Please don’t think that I’m saying we should abandon our stance, our pro-life centers, our marches, our rallies against abortion. We should continue to do all of these things as we are led to do so, and we should work toward changing the law IF that door is open to us.

However, in the fight to end this wicked practice and law, we should not compromise our principles by voting for someone like Donald Trump in order to stack a Supreme Court to achieve our purposes. Trump is not the answer, and was never intended to be. This may be why we were given Trump in this election cycle. God may be showing us that we will not achieve good things by aligning ourselves with the wicked. You cannot turn to darkness in order to achieve something that belongs to the Light of the World.

Yes, we are to be faithful in the realms presented to us. To those who work in pro-life centers, continue to do so. Those who march, march. Those who pray, pray to end it. But let us not compromise our values, our convictions, for the sake of the cause. We should not bend a knee to Nebuchadnezzar simply to overturn Roe v. Wade. The LORD wants our obedience to Him, not our compromise with the world, because in the end, only He can move in the hearts and minds of the people of this nation in bringing about this ghastly practice. We are to be faithful to what He has called us to do, and trust Him with the rest.



12 thoughts on “Overturning Roe v. Wade is Not Our Primary Goal

  1. I find the hardest part of Roe VS Wade to be found in Romans 13:

    1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

    Roe VS Wade is the law of the land, signed into law by governing authorities who have been established by God for His purposes. I’m not in favor of Abortion, far from it. My wife was bed ridden for 8 months when she carried the twins, her life and theirs in mortal jeopardy, every morning her doctor told her that he could end it, but she refused and survived and the twins did too.

    What I’m saying is that I agree with you – this election cycle is not the answer, both Trump and Clinton are liberal democrats and Trump only came out against abortion when he decided to run for president, prior to that he was a loyal Democrat and a staunch supporter of abortion. When we enter the fight against this practice, since it is a law, we must do it legally, prayerfully, and lovingly. And having been signed into law by by authorities that have been established by God a misstep in the process is a sin.

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  2. Whichever way people choose to vote, it would be nice if Christians would stop using this issue as a litmus test for one another. I’m voting for Trump, and I’m not holding my nose about it or troubled in my conscience over it. A number of his policy positions are attractive to me. I’m voting for him to fill a civil role in a civil government. I’m not voting for him to be an elder in my church.

    I don’t try and force others to vote for him, and I don’t suggest that by not voting, someone might be electing Hillary Clinton; though I consider her utterly toxic. I am fully aware that under Trump, we will probably have a more colorful White House for a few years, but I believe that the erosion of the principles in the Constitution will be less severe than under Clinton. It’s a pragmatic choice.

    I hire people, and sit on hiring boards. What I look at during the hiring process is a portofolio – what has a person done on the balance? Will this person be an asset, given the parameters of the position? This is the way I look at electing the President. The President is a CEO, not a church leader. I wish that Christians would care as much about who they put in place as pastors/elders/bishops as much as a President, as the former has vastly more impact on their immediate context than the President of the United States of America.

    I disagree with your reasoning and that of the larger “nevertrump” backlash. However, I just hope that amidst disagreements, Christians can argue with charity, not smearing one another as somehow betraying the Christian faith or sinning in what is a choice of conscience.

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    • You are electing him for pragmatic reasons, I’m rejecting Trump for theological reasons. Pragmatism is a dangerous mistress. I choose not to dance with her or any other form of idolatry, to the best of my ability. So we will continue to disagree.

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    • Judging from Ana’s post on FB, if you are saying that we do all kinds of things not in the Bible, I agree. My point about Scripture is that we are not commanded to vote anywhere for civil authorities. Therefore, I am perfectly free not to vote, or to vote my conscience.


      • I guess my thinking and logic works very differently than yours. When you stated why vote because God already knows the outcome, to me logically this is the same as those that think we’re all going to die one day anyway so why take care of ourselves, why be safe, why fear God, etc.

        I would not try to convince someone to vote if they don’t want to, however when that group goes public about it, it naturally invites opposition. This is the same group that didn’t vote for Romney because he’s Mormon, or because their favorite candidate didn’t get nominated. The result is Obama Care, higher national debt, the spread of ISIS, taxpayer funded abortions, weaker military, rampant corruption, weaker border security, higher taxes, etc, etc.

        Unfortunately there’s very few saintly pure as snow Christians that are capable of going through the electoral process and also capable of coming out on top in the debates. It’s a secular job, just like the military, the IRS, DOJ, etc. The president is largely a government administrator. Career politicians are good at getting elected and having sanitized words in public but they aren’t good at accomplishing much.

        I try to not make things more complicated than they need to be. Voting is a simple act, so is logic.


      • Hi Scott
        First, I do take your attack on my logic seriously, especially given that the reason you cited for the illogic it about the fifth or sixth reason why I’m not voting for Trump. Please read my earlier posts on the matter and you will find that I do not support him because of his immorality (the same immorality that we condemned Bill Clinton for), his lack of integrity (switching parties and positions for the pursuit of power) and the fact that he and Hillary are the same person cut from the same cloth. Another reason is that I don’t see anywhere in Scripture where God intends to save countries, especially our country. People keep saying we have to vote for Trump to save the country. Really? This nation is no different than any other nation that has come and gone on the face of the earth. We are not divinely inspired, the second Israel, or any of that garbage. Jesus didn’t die on the cross to save the United States of America. He died on the cross to save His people, for His Kingdom. Finally, the goal of every Christian should be the health of the church, not the nation. We have turned the nation into idolatry, and missed our calling as believers. Our goal is worshiping the LORD, and building His kingdom, not the kingdoms of men, or our own kingdoms.

        As for your attack on the sovereignty issue, it falls short in dealing with the health issue, since I can actually change my health to a small degree, whereas my vote in an election of a president of a country of 330 plus million people… well, I hope you can see the logic in that. But I’m also saying that I trust the LORD with whomever He has chosen as our next leader. It is ultimately His choice. We cannot, in good conscience, vote for someone like Trump and jeaporadize our walk with the LORD. I feel that by voting for Trump, Christians are selling out on their convictionsa and moral high ground in the same way the NOW gang sold out on women’s rights in defending Bill Clinton. If you feel at peace holding hands with a sexual predator, then press on. But I have to ask you, is this really what the LORD, who calls us to righteousness and forsaking the world to follow Him, would have you do?


      • “We cannot, in good conscience, vote for someone like Trump and jeaporadize [sic] our walk with the LORD.”

        I wasn’t going to write anything on this any further, but since I’m subscribed to this post and saw this sail into my inbox, I thought it appropriate to remind you and your readers that one does not jeopardize one’s walk with the Lord through a political vote of conscience. Keep in mind that Christians are safe in the hands of the Lord because they are bonded in holy covenant between God the Father and God the Son. (John 10:28-29)

        You cannot have it both ways. You cannot say that voting is unimportant biblically on the one hand; an optional civic duty that can be ignored to no consequence – while at the same time affirming that exercising that duty, even if done in clear conscience, has the power to call one’s election into question. This is not only internally inconsistent, but theologically problematic.

        I am not accusing you of being malicious, but this is very dangerous territory. I urge you to reconsider your position.


      • Point well taken. I confess that my conscience is bound not to vote for Trump or Hillary, and in my short comings, seek to bind the conscience of others, which I have expressly said should not be done. So, will try to think more clearly on the matter when I have time. I should not have responded to Scott’s earlier post at all, but you know how cousins rub one another (in the best sense). 🙂


      • Tim,

        Please know that my disagreement with any Christian not voting for the “heathen Trump” (that’s accomplished a thousand well documented good deeds in life and magically all erased because of a vulgar statement) isn’t a personal attack on you are anyone. These are just different perspectives on important issues of our time.

        One thousand is also the number of reasons I could use to state why every Christian should vote for him versus Hillary Clinton. However if he wins I know he won’t do everything right and he will disappoint some as every President has.

        My faith and conscience is very different. When Christians say they can’t vote for a presidential candidate even though they already know 100% the opposing candidate would be worse for the country, this to me is not God’s wisdom.

        In spite of however long the list of reasons why Christian’s don’t vote for Trump, expecting progress on just one of many agendas for example stronger border security, this ought to be enough to move their index finger for that vote. I just don’t see how any Christian can in good conscience knowingly place their own country and community at greater risk of safety, that to me isn’t love.

        My last point along those lines is the relationship between the church and an imperfect sinful nation. To me they are both so intertwined that both affects the other, in the world but not of it. My view is that the actions of elected and unelected local and federal governments directly impacts the church. Church members are employed in these agencies, federal and local polices often directly impact church members, impacts local business, quality of life, safety, taxes, schools, etc.

        If Christians are going to avoid hypocrisy in not voting for a candidate because of their flaws, they will have to be consistent in not spending their money at large retail chains because they gave funding to controversial causes, or buying fuel from certain oil companies, wearing clothes made in countries that abuse women and children and the list goes on.

        For 2016 a Christian’s faith and conscience should be at least big enough to vote for a candidate knowing at minimum one agenda out of many will be worked towards. For example better border security and interior enforcement. I know about many people that lost their lives from criminals that should have been deported or prevented from entering the country.

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  3. Sir, I appreciate so much your humble reply and assure you that I am no Pharisee sitting up on a mountain somewhere. My shortcomings are many and varied. Even my best days are stuffed with fodder for repentance, so I treasure the sovereign grace which carries me through.

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