A Response to Ru

Sometimes it is just easier to respond to someone’s comments in a post instead of in the comments thread. I felt like Ru needed a full response. Ru was commenting on my post Snow White and the Abortion Queen. This post will help us think through some of the issues.

Ru writes:

I just wanted to say that I was confused by this post. I’m not sure what’s being argued.

The idea behind the post was very simple: my 6th graders clearly saw the wickedness of a mother murdering her own child in order to remain the most beautiful woman in the land. My hope is that when they are introduced to the concept of abortion, a mother murdering her unborn child, they will find it just as repulsive since it is the same thing.

Women who get abortions because they’re afraid of losing their ‘beauty’? Or women who simply choose to do so because they cannot be ‘burdened’ by caring for them? Considering that you take several broad statements, without any thought of delving deeper into the situation, reflects a lack of a deeper investigation into our culture. And how this impacts christians in terms of what the bible/scripture says in response?

I’m not sure why you would be so concerned that I delve deeper into the situation of a woman killing her child and/or culture. The Bible is quite clear about murder, it’s a sin against God at all times. Finding out the reason for the sin does not lessen the sin nor make it OK. It’s still sin, regardless of the reasons.

As for delving deeper into our culture, why would I? I’m a part of the culture as well as you are and know that our culture is fallen, sinful, misguided, and morally bankrupt. Understanding it better does not bring me, or those involved in the culture, any closer to God or into a saving relationship with Christ. The culture itself is in need of correction, through God’s word, not the other way around.

I am disappointed to see that there is clearly a bias here, as reflected by the narrow scope of this post.

By what standard do you make such a statement? You are obviously judging the post with some world view that you have adopted, and therefore, you are biased as well. Just for the record, I’m not coming here under the false pretense of being non-biased. These are my thoughts as shaped by Scripture. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ (2 Corinthians 10:4-5).

To assume abortion-minded young women are prone to think that the child in her womb is not real, immediately places blame on ‘young women’.

I’m not sure what you are saying. I do know that for years Planned Parenthood has put forth the lie that the child in the womb is not human, but just a growth, sort of like cancer. The child in the woman is made in the image of God and therefore not a tumor, or cancer, but rather a being of infinite value and worth.

As for the blame on young women, most women enter into sexual relationships voluntarily, therefore they are culpable. I’m not removing blame from the males involved. They need to be admonished for their sinful role in getting a woman pregnant as well, and should seek to help raise the child and take care of the mother of the child.

To simplify: both the male and the female involved in the pregnancy are to blame for entering into such a relationship outside what God has called us to do. (Marriage is between one man and one woman as defined by Christ in Matthew 19. The purpose of marriage is having children, being fruitful and multiplying the race of image bearers).

What places these women in these situations in the first place? How do these circumstances factor into a woman’s choice to keep or end the pregnancy?

For the most part, these women have acted irresponsibly and bought into the lie that they can sleep around just as freely as men can without consequences. The reality screams a different story. We know from the CDC that women are far more susceptible to diseases through multiple sex partners. Women run the greater risk since they can become pregnant. And women suffer more emotionally through having multiple partners. But our culture (and Planned Parenthood) tries to put forth the lie that sex can be had freely and without consequences.

Instead of protecting women, our culture abuses them and treats them as chattel. It is truly sad that anyone would endorse such a culture or consider the heinous act of abortion as a solution to continue this culture of death.

How can God impact these lives before women feel as if there is no choice but to abort the child, because she is led to believe there are no other options? (economic hardships, partner difficulties (female single parents, who are one of the most vulnerable groups of people in our societies) , and unreadiness for parenting.)

Well, God cannot impact their lives at all if we do not face up to the reality that these women have sinned and fall short of God’s glory. They need to know that they are sinners in need of a Savior, and that the Savior is Jesus Christ. They need to repent of their sinfulness trusting in Him for salvation. They need to trust in Him to bring them through the hardship of bringing a child into the world as a single mother (in case the man abdicates his responsibility).

The solution to their problem is not by sinning more in murdering the child in their womb. The solution is repentance and embracing Christ as He is found in the gospel.

As far as the economic hardships, etc., all those are difficulties, but not excuses to sin even more so.

To place blame on people who may be at their darkest, most vulnerable points in their lives seems to be contradictory to God’s love (aren’t we all sinners?). That being said, it’s good to know what’s sinful…

Yes we are all sinners. But this is no reason to lie to a woman and tell her she is not a sinner. Again, she needs to know that what she has done is sinful. It would be unloving not to tell her so. The most loving thing we can do as Christians is to speak the truth, not hide from it, or cover it up with the false love of the liberal Christian. True love speaks truthfully, and not sharing the truth with these women is to keep them from understanding their greatest need.

If you meant to compare abortion in a broad sense to Snow White, I am sad to see that you did not investigate more into this issue. But if you purely meant to point out women who do it purely for beauty reasons, then I can see where you’re coming from.

Glad that you see that.

Nonetheless, I don’t profess to be right or wrong. I just wanted to point out that taking these views without really digging deeper makes this post appear superficial. Flakey, and without substance. And that diving deeper could possibly help women work out their inner demons, before they feel cornered, and then blamed for what’s already been done. But that’s just my opinion.

I’m not really trying to help women work out their inner demons. No one but Christ can help them do that. However, inner demons are not the biggest problems these women face. Their biggest problem is their corrupt hearts, which again, can only be dealt with by Christ.

All this to say is that abortion is always a sin, for in doing so, one is taking an innocent life for selfish reasons. For any society to truly function, we must help the most innocent, poor, and needy within the society. The practice of abortion does not do this. It brings about a culture of death, devalues life, and sins against God. Because of this, everyone in our culture needs to repent and turn to the living and true God who made us not only for His glory, but to fill the earth. All children have value because of the image of God they bear. Our culture will continue down into its wretched abyss until we realize this and repent.

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3 thoughts on “A Response to Ru

  1. Fantastic post, Timothy. I hope that Ru will come to understand the love, forgiveness, and understanding God has for us, sinners all. Ru doesn’t seem to get that you yourself have been in dark times, and are coming from a place of compassion for the young women.

    Alec

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